Wednesday, July 06, 2005

Men, Divorce, and Beer

Since I recently had the honor of being named an "underexposed blog" by DruBlood (Goddamn, did my site statistics jump), I thought I'd check out one of my fellow underexposees. I hadn't read but two posts at 64 Arts before I'd jumped on the "comment" button. But then I jumped off, because I could feel the sap rising and I knew that I had more to say than I could squeeze into a single comment.

She's talking about the fact that several of her friends are getting divorced. Then she says:
I have heard the edict that it takes two to make a marriage but the fact in all these cases is that the women have been changing, adjusting, compromising, letting go, trying over, but the men have made nothing more than incremental moves.... But I guess I am most apalled by the fact that I know these women to be wonderful people and cannot understand how their partners refuse to get well enough to see it and see how lucky they were. Now I have to say that I don't think this is gender-specific, it just happens that in these cases the people I am siding with (and with good reasons) are women.

As a guy who works hard on his marriage, I have to disagree. Not with the general gist of the above, but with the disclaimer at the end, "I don't think this is gender-specific."

I think it's gender specific. I think it's real damn gender specfic. Having grown up as a guy in mainstream American culture, having come out of the mainstream only gradually and having been a student of American Culture (dissertation and everything), I have to say that generally speaking, guys have a problem with relationships.

Ok, once again I demonstrate my keen grasp of the obvious, but I just want to make the argument that 64 is being unnecessarily cautious. Let's call a spade a spade here (and no, that's not a racist slur. I checked). While there are really wonderful guys out there who are caring, considerate partners who listen, share, compromise and spend time thinking about where their relationships are going, there are millions more who not only don't act that way, but they actively ridicule men who do. And maybe worse, they actively celebrate behaving like the selfish dicks that so many women (and I imagine, not a few men) have had to put up with in relationships.

This celebration of emotional infantilism and thinly-veiled misogyny extends to commercial as well as day-to-day, interpersonal culture. I rarely watch TV, but when I do, it's usually a sporting event, so I get exposed to more beer commercials than my lifestyle might otherwise predict. And beer commercials are one of the best examples of this kind of misogyny and selfish infantilism. Although there are examples too numerous to mention, the one that comes to mind is the one with the guy who is accompanying his wife shopping. She's totally into it, but he's bored, and looking for a way out. He spots an extension cord running across the floor, and follows it until it disappears under one of those circular clothes racks they have in stores. He ducks under the rack, and finds several guys like himself, huddled around a TV showing (surprise) a sporting event, and drinking whichever beer paid for the ad.

As the one instructor in my undergrad days was fond of saying, "Where do I start?" I guess the best place is the tight connection between a fantasized return to childhood (I vividly remember hiding under those circular clothes racks--when I was five, not thirty) and a rejection of the supposed "woman's world." Under the clothes rack, safe from "mommy's" eyes, men can be boys. They have their TV, their sports, their beer, and--Oh, yes--the company of other boy-men.

Were this just about a rejection of the adult world, it would be bad enough. But in so many of these situations the rejected "adult world" of responsibility and maturity becomes a rejection of an imagined "woman's world," and by extension, women. The fantasized world of boy-men includes an abandonment of not only responsibilities like bills and jobs and insurance, but also emotional responsibilites like caring and sharing and listening.

Which brings me to my other favorite example of this mentality. In researching masculinity and gun culture, I came across one of those free-floating internet texts called "rules for women." One version had a couple of my favorite "rules," which really illustrate what I'm on about.

Sunday = sports. It's like the full moon or the changing of the tides. Let it be. Ditto Saturday

Like the beer ad, this one clearly demarcates a world of "sports" which is exclusively for men (tell that to Mia Hamm or Cat Osterman), and which women, if they are wise, will simply avoid. Notice, however, that this world conveniently covers the entire weekend. Yes, I know it's meant as a joke, but you can tell a lot about people from their fantasies. Men who fantasize about uninterruped, woman-free weekends of sports--especially men in relationships, the obvious target market for this text--obviously have serious issues. Weekends are when people do things as a family, work on the house, mow the lawn, go out to the lake, see movies together. Who would want to avoid his partner for the entire weekend, in favor of televised sports?

Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.

Jeez, this one is painful just to read. It wouldn't be so bad if I couldn't imagine millions of guys, some of whom I know, saying "Hell, yeah!" to that one. It's such a sad rejection of the entire emotional life. Sympathy is a basic element of the human condition. I'm actually at a loss to put into words what is missing from a life without sympathy.

Crying is blackmail

Ah, my favorite. Boy-men generally hate to see women cry, especially if there's any chance that they might be legitimately at fault. If crying is blackmail (not "sometimes blackmail" or "often used as blackmail"), then anytime a guy like this is such an ass to a woman that she tears up, she is automatically in the wrong, he is automatically in the right, and nothing she says any longer has any validity. Nice bit of logic. Talk about blame-the-victim. I mean, this is abuser mentality. Do these guys, in their darker moments, think "bleeding is blackmail?"

Anyway, I could go on and on. Hell, there's a good dissertation right there, about the emotional infantilism that's not only propagated among men, but celebrated and pushed on them as a way to sell beer, etc.. I know I've been rambling a bit, but I think it all supports my original point--refusal to do the emotional heavy lifting of a relationship is a gender thing. Yes, there are lots of great guys out there, but how many relationships do you know or have you known in which the man refuses to: share his feelings, listen to her feelings, remember birthdays and anniversaries, plan parties and other social events, discuss the current state and future of the relationship, contemplate the current state and future of the relationship, take the time to figure out what's wrong when she says "nothing,"get to know her friends and relatives, work at building a social network that includes her friends and relatives, cry when his heart is breaking, or write the cute little notes that go in the kids' lunch boxes?

Hell, I even came across a paper on the gender-specific ways in which emotional work within relationships is imbalanced. The authors propose that just like the imbalance of domestic work and child care, the imbalance of emotional work has a negative impact (psychological stress) on women. The sad part is that while the boy-men are damaging their partners, they're also damaging themselves. Like so many traditional male patterns, it is both other- and self-destructive. The paper says:

In communal relationships people feel mutual responsibility for each other’s welfare, help each other, and give benefits as a response to the other person’s needs. Emotions are more freely shown and responded too, and this is one of the ways closeness is built and maintained in relationships

Dip me in patchouli and call me a sensitive New-Age guy, but that sounds like the kind of relationship I'd like to have. And I think most guys would like to have it, too, but waaay to many hear the siren song of the boy-men, calling from beneath the clothes rack.

"Come with us, run away from mommy. come with us..."

25 Comments:

At July 07, 2005 9:08 AM, Blogger AFM said...

brilliant

 
At July 07, 2005 9:29 AM, Anonymous Sara said...

You, sir, are a hero. I'm so thankful that guys like you (and my boyfriend, lucky me) are out there in the world.

 
At July 07, 2005 12:55 PM, Anonymous doviende said...

wow. that was a fantastic post. I totally agree. Men tend to depend on the women in their lives for emotional support, and get ridiculed by other men for exposing their emotions. Our job as men is to re-learn how to show empathy, and how to care for each other so that we can take some of the burden off of our girlfriends/spouses/mothers/sisters.

I'm in a pro-feminist men's collective that gets together once per week to give emotional support to each other, and practice mutual aid. We talk about our relationships and other things in our lives, occasionally rant about our frustrations, and just generally practice exposing our feelings to other men. We improve our relationships with the women in our lives by doing this because we are more able to listen to them and be supportive, and we don't need to rely on them as the sole giver of emotional support. We take responsibility for ourselves and our friends, and try to stop acting like kids ;)

thanks again for writing this. i'm gonna pass it around to my friends :)

 
At July 07, 2005 8:25 PM, Anonymous Pansy said...

Here here mate! In an effort to be fair and because I really did not know, I wrote that I did not think it was gender specific, but since I wrote that I received flak from one male, who took it very personally (truth can hurt when it hits home) and much support, from women and people like yourself , who understand the value of growing in a relationship. And further, who understand that trying in a relationship is not just lip service but a real effort to see needs other than your own. Very often they are the needs of children involved and the fact that those kids deserve two responsible parents rather than a parent and an overgrown sibling who lets them do what they like without thought. Well, I thought that I was in one of the last solid relationships, so what a f**in great relief to know your out there. Thanks! You Rock!

 
At July 09, 2005 2:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word.

 
At July 09, 2005 3:56 PM, Blogger Jodie said...

This is a tremendous post. Thank you, and may it be an "Aha!" moment for thousands of men. I know many who took a long time (and a couple of divorces) to learn this, and many more who never learned it at all.

 
At July 09, 2005 6:46 PM, Blogger Becky said...

Thank you.

 
At July 09, 2005 9:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bless you. Just about the time I was beginning to think we had made zero worthwhile progress in the past 40 years, I linked to your blog. Bless you twice

 
At July 09, 2005 11:02 PM, Anonymous annie said...

Ah, thank you, thank you, thank you for writing this.

 
At July 09, 2005 11:40 PM, Blogger ccw said...

Great post! Thank you!

 
At July 10, 2005 1:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for this post. I linked to you at my blog during the weekend roundup.

Lauren
feministe.us/blog/

 
At July 10, 2005 10:08 AM, Blogger roger said...

right on and amen brother!! and thank you lauren for the link.

i have precious few men friends because i can't stand the dopes you describe. my wife and i ended an eight year friendship with another couple when we started to say something to the dipstick guy who took full advantage of his wife's cultural tendency to be meek with him. she is a sweetheart and a brilliant woman. he is a pedantic, selfish boor.

 
At July 10, 2005 3:10 PM, Blogger Chris Foresman said...

Perhaps this is an exception that proves the rule, or an alarming counter-example to your hypothesis that this is gender-specific:

My last girlfriend of three years, despite all attempts I could conceive of (and I'm willing to accept that maybe I just couldn't come up with enough original approaches), would almost never discuss her feelings, rarely considered the future of our relationship or her part in it, and would rarely initiate contact with my friends and family.

I don't think this is gender-specific. I think the majority of marketing seeks to let everyone believe that they are a completely autonomous entity that only exists to satisfy every fleeting desire and owes nothing to no one, especially not consideration, explanation, sympathy, or emotional support. This attitude most certainly shows a lack of maturity, but I find it an increasing trend among young people in general. This may have been a long historical trend among men in general, but no longer. In the struggle to bring gender equality, perhaps something is getting "lost in translation."

 
At July 10, 2005 3:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All the comments regarding relationships - yet no mention of marriage, wife or husband. What gives?

 
At July 10, 2005 5:10 PM, Blogger RJ said...

Anonymous at 3:10--I don't understand you comment. I'm married, as I say in the post. Are you asking why others don't declare their marital status?

Also, Chris: When I day that I think it's "real damn gender specific," I don't mean that all men act this way and women never do. I mean that men are far more likely to act this way (90%? 98%?)largely because we live in a culture that actively encourages them to do so. I disagree that it's just a manifestation of the autonomous entity/fleeting desire syndrome (although that's an important problem and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it) because a) we rarely see ads that market to women by encouraging them to forsake their emotional responsibilities, b) the ones we do see don't depict men as having to pick up the slack for them, and c) because we still see ads that use women's grossly disproportionate share of the emotional workload to manipulate them into buying stuff. The prime example is the "Doofus Dad" stereotype commercial where the guy gets himself into trouble by being clueless, and the wife bails him out, but only because she has the right brand of whatever.

 
At July 11, 2005 12:26 PM, Blogger Jami said...

Who would want to avoid his partner for the entire weekend, in favor of televised sports?

The kind of guy who's bought what he's been sold about women: they're pretty shrews, good for one thing. Unfortunately, some young women feed this stereotype. They shop and primp and wonder why their boyfriends/husbands think they're boring and get FURIOUS when their asses expand and they don't even have their looks to sell any more.

So the stereotype is fed by this small group of women, the women who are models in beer commercials, the Pamela Andersons of the world. This is unfortunate for majority of women, who have been interesting (and beautiful in much more sustainable ways) all along.

Advice to young women who don't want to be mistreated by some guy who thinks our most important features can be made of silicone: go to a liberal arts college. Stay the hell away from frat boys.

A dollar says Bark/Bite went to a small college. Two says he wasn't in a frat.

 
At July 11, 2005 7:57 PM, Blogger RJ said...

Jami gets two dollars, but not three. I went to Huge State University, but I did avoid the frats at all costs. I probably should have gone to a small liberal arts college, though.

To be fair, though, there are a lot of great guys who are/were in frats. It's just that along with values like brotherhood, tradition, and service, most frats also encourage things like social climbing, binge-drinking, and alcohol-facilitated gang rape. I've heard things are different at some smaller colleges, but here at Huge State, it was a pretty repulsive scene.

 
At November 30, 2005 11:31 PM, Anonymous nescient314@hotmail.com said...

This seems like more male-bashing to me, and our society is full of it. I don't disagree that many MEN have deep problems voicing their emotions. Note how that is different from "guys have a problem with relationships".

BUT... There are very few relationship problems which are one-sided. Does the woman create a safe place for the man to voice his feelings? Does the woman use her superior communication skills to facilitate the man expressing himself? Do women teach their sons not to express their feelings?

Additionally, Most people - men and women - have some baggage that they are dragging around, that contributes to relationship problems. The baggage is not just on the men's side. I know a number of great men who are single, but while I know lots of women, I would not set any of them up with my single male friends. Why? Because they are buried in baggage. One is bitterly angry with her father, and passes that on to other men in her life. One is wrestling with depression. One wants a partner who she can use as a finacially crutch, because she "deserves" to follow her art. One is emotionally abusive.

And the list can go on. Just because someone is more verbal, does not mean that they are actually more skilled at correctly diagosing emotional issues, or more skilled at resolving emotional issues. In general, both men and women have to grow to be in a relationship, and that can be painful, and often slow.

64 Arts says "but the fact in all these cases is that the women have been changing, adjusting, compromising, letting go, trying over, but the men have made nothing more than incremental moves.... But I guess I am most apalled by the fact that I know these women to be wonderful people and cannot understand how their partners refuse to get well enough to see it and see how lucky they were". I suspect that in these partnerships, her friends were the women. Who, I am sure believe that they have been doing all the changing, etc. But this is simply spin. They guy's friends are saying the same things. If the women were really so purely wonderful, the guys would not have decided that they were better off alone. I am not saying that the men were not asses, because I don't know them, but I am saying that making this a gender issue i.e. women try, and bend over backwards in relationships, and men have the problem, is to contribute and perpetuate the stereotype that men are deadwood in the partnership.

I am appalled that you and your fans so quickly applaud your thoughtless derogatory ideas, such as:
"the emotional infantilism that's not only propagated among men,", "and--Oh, yes--the company of other boy-men", the use of "guys" instead of "men", where you use "women" and not some diminutive, etc. I would go on, but your explanation of "crying is blackmail" just pisses me off.

I think that currently, it is extreemly difficult to be a psychologically whole male, and that perpetuating stereotypes instead of delving for underlying causing is damaging and a cheap shot as well.

 
At December 13, 2006 2:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm so glad there are people like you out there who are able to "call a spade a spade" in todays PC world...as a woman in a relationship with a boy-man, and coming out of a lengthy conversation about this exact topic, it's nice to hear that someone else out there notices and believes the same thing. This is the only way lasting change will be made, so please, speak the truth as you see it, and enever stop.

 
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